(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[5eme ronde - Tournoi de Paris]PW[Noguchi Motoki]PB[Kim Young-Sam]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2014-04-21]EV[Tournoi de Paris]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Tealc/vaansama on kgs]C[julbla [5k?\]: hello, c'est quoi la partie? et quel couleur? xD
fujiyama [7k\]: bonjour tout le monde
fujiyama [7k\]: quel est le favori , j'imagine que c'est KIM:)
php [-\]: Hello. tables 1 à 4 :
php [-\]: 4	Dumont Louis	Blanchard Benjamin
FFGScribe [?\]: player are here:)
shapenaji [5d\]: Is there video for this?
php [-\]: 3	Campagnie Rémi	le_Calvé Tanguy
php [-\]: 2	Debarre Thomas	Dai Junfu
php [-\]: 1	Noguchi Motoki	Kim Young-Sam (cette partie) 
php [-\]: Merci Muttey
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;B[pp]
;W[qd]
;B[dq]
;W[cd]
;B[od]C[MrZNF [6d\]: since when is noguchi motoki a god?
FFGScribe [?\]: his birth
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;W[fc]C[Muttley [2k\]: Since he got his own series on Sky History Channel "Modern Day Gods of Go"
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;B[qc]C[troll [2d\]: d5
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;W[co]C[julbla [5k?\]: motok b or w?
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;B[fp]C[woochie59 [7k\]: yes
MrZNF [6d\]: check the names...
FFGScribe [?\]: w
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;W[ck]C[DarkPoet [4k\]: is this being relayed in real time?
devasatyam [4k\]: usually
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;B[qn]C[gooooo [-\]: mrznf, julbla is on a mobile device and can't see it
julbla [5k?\]: thanks
gooooo [-\]: julbla, Noguchi Motoki vs Kim Young-Sam
MrZNF [6d\]: it's the Paris tournament, so yes.
Muttley [2k\]: yeah, it is a good idea to assume people asking are on mobiles :)
gooooo [-\]: (Motoki is white)
MrZNF [6d\]: aha, i've never used a mobile device to login on kgs. why can't they see the names, it's a bug?
FFGScribe [?\]: no
Muttley [2k\]: don't know the reason
FFGScribe [?\]: ask wms
devasatyam [4k\]: scribe is playing both sides
jsnd [2k?\]: it doesnt show the names if they are entered in... only who created the game
jsnd [2k?\]: not a bug more of a lack of feature
arunasr [?\]: who is wms?
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;W[kc]C[MrZNF [6d\]: programmer
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;B[rd]C[Muttley [2k\]: look up the user "wms" info
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;W[qe]
;B[re]C[Muttley [2k\]: he also has a blog on google+ for the developing new client
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;W[pc]C[shapenaji [5d\]: specifically, the portland based wunderkind who made kgs
]
;B[qb]
;W[qf]
;B[oc]
;W[of]C[Muttley [2k\]: Not sure Bill's in Portland any more, shape, he's busy with a new job he's enjoying :)
MrZNF [6d\]: p14 interesting...
Muttley [2k\]: so it is great that he still finds time to work on the new client
]
;B[kq]C[woochie59 [7k\]: are they pro ?
MrZNF [6d\]: no
Oloril [-\]: Only reason to move away from Portland is if you need sunlight to survive
Muttley [2k\]: black is an Insei, I believe?
DarkPoet [4k\]: ah i was thinking they're playing awfully fast for pros
arunasr [?\]: Muttley, thanks for the suggestion I look up wms user
Muttley [2k\]: you're welcome
Muttley [2k\]: God of go programming :))
shapenaji [5d\]: Oh? That's news, I haven't been there in a while, is he still in Oregon?
suounegni [5d\]: black was yongguseng (insei) few years ago, now teaching in Biba
djo666 [2k\]: je sait pas pk mais banc je le voi deja en retard
suounegni [5d\]: 1st class
Nande [2d\]: 3rd class
ivank [2k\]: is b Korondo?
meanman [7d\]: b has no chance in this game
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;W[pj]C[suounegni [5d\]: yup korondo
shapenaji [5d\]: well that's awfully mean :)
julbla [5k?\]: yeah ivamk
ivank [2k\]: thx
shapenaji [5d\]: I don't love white's left side, feels both airy and low
DarkPoet [4k\]: huh I was thinking it seemed like solidness vs speed, w's developing much more quickly but has bigger weaknesses to exploit
]
;B[cf]C[shapenaji [5d\]: but I haven't really done my fuseki study recently, maybe this is common
goedeljp [1k\]: w c12 common?
MrZNF [6d\]: it's not about common in this situation, it's a very alternative opening
MrZNF [6d\]: if w c12, white feels too low. white should force black into the corner in a different manner
MrZNF [6d\]: or maybe defend the corner with e15 and attack the black stone
shapenaji [5d\]: yeah, c9 and the c16 large shimari just don't interact well
MrZNF [6d\]: seems possible, since w will also develop h17 area a little
shapenaji [5d\]: e15? doesn't that leave too much corner aji? not just e16?
lichigo [1d\]: i prefer black but the game is stiil even i think
Muttley [2k\]: say, c12 e14 g14, looks like a reasonable development for w to me
MrZNF [6d\]: e15 leaves a little aji in the corner, but it's a bit more offensive
lichigo [1d\]: if c12 maybe c17 for black
FFGScribe [?\]: mutt kim likes surely d17
Muttley [2k\]: yes, but I want b to enter the corner
SIscurge [5d\]: dai plays with thomas?
shapenaji [5d\]: maybe, but w can't possibly hope to gain by attacking c14... b could tenuki easily and then reduce later with D10
FFGScribe [?\]: da
Nezros [1d\]: why do you want white to give up his only corner?
Muttley [2k\]: moyo
Nezros [1d\]: what moyo?
Muttley [2k\]: w stones form one group
Muttley [2k\]: that moyo :)
jwc [-\]: why not q3 or r3?
jwc [-\]: big corner
Oloril [-\]: I'm not a big fan of moyo, rather have mustard
SIscurge [5d\]: woaow P14
Muttley [2k\]: I'm 2k, they're 7d, its not going to happen, I know :)
FFGScribe [?\]: no mutt, 7d egf
FFGScribe [?\]: +++9d here
Shunyata [3k?\]: they are not weak kgs 7d
FFGScribe [?\]: 7d here is 5d egf
Muttley [2k\]: lol, I'll happily trade being a strong 2k for weak 7d
shapenaji [5d\]: I think I just like e16, stabilize, if black wants to add to his group and make it a target worth messing with, then great
shapenaji [5d\]: until he does, too small
Muttley [2k\]: I get that, but if b c11, w 3 space jump is the target, not b
Shunyata [3k?\]: c12
Muttley [2k\]: if you can get the top left corner and stablise the white stones on the left, great
Muttley [2k\]: (in sente)
SIscurge [5d\]: I am 5dan egf and recently felt to 4d -_-
shapenaji [5d\]: eh, c11, e9, and I'm fairly certain black owes a move
Muttley [2k\]: if you e16, can black b16 as that move?
shapenaji [5d\]: shunyata: I think the consensus was that we didn't like that because of how low white is, black has c17 and the corner, while white has a low side
SIscurge [5d\]: I think that P14 set white a bit behind.
gogonuts [4d\]: both pretty cautious up to here - respecting each others strength
troll [2d\]: but when b does c14, he doesnt take advantage of white low position by pressing it down, instead tries to live here_
shapenaji [5d\]: I don't think I would b16 in response to e16, I think that pays off e15, I think I keep the aji at c17
Muttley [2k\]: that is not kgs style, gogonuts
Muttley [2k\]: not a bad thing, probably :)
shapenaji [5d\]: well, black can live here, either in the corner or on the side, white can't take both
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;W[ch]
;B[ed]C[Muttley [2k\]: 2k move.
shapenaji [5d\]: well, I am overruled, but I don't like this
Muttley [2k\]: c14
]
;W[ec]
;B[bd]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i would have like e15 better than c12
Shunyata [3k?\]: but you are only 4d
gogonuts [4d\]: thats a point
SAITEMR205 [3d?\]: Let's not criticize the kibitz please.
Muttley [2k\]: like rank matters over opinion :)
]
;W[cc]C[SAITEMR205 [3d?\]: WE can remain objective.
gogonuts [4d\]: but this is so hard i might get lucky if a pro says whats right :-)
]
;B[bc]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i just think the left is pretty low, and yet there is still some trouble possible at c7
Shunyata [3k?\]: c15
gogonuts [4d\]: i see what your going for, but i dont think w wants b to be able to live on the spot
]
;W[bb]
;B[ef]C[Shunyata [3k?\]: w agrees
shapenaji [5d\]: If w banks his entier game on the G15 area becoming moyo... I'm not sanguine about his chances
shapenaji [5d\]: *entire
OldGrumpy [2k\]: i dont like white position now
gogonuts [4d\]: its easy to miss e14, but its the perfect shape move
gogonuts [4d\]: i blame e12 :-)
MrZNF [6d\]: i would say it's hard to miss e14, because it's the perfect shape move
gogonuts [4d\]: c12 i mean
gogonuts [4d\]: ok, ok
OldGrumpy [2k\]: no more possibility of creating a big moyo
gogonuts [4d\]: it just takes a little self-control not to protect the 2 stones on the left
MrZNF [6d\]: white too low everywhere, no moyo chance, hard to attack this b group efficiently i feel
MrZNF [6d\]: feels like a good game for b
MrZNF [6d\]: i wonder if white will find good timing to invade bottom
Shunyata [3k?\]: why is w called Kami Sama?
maitrepo [2k\]: white must invade bttom right now ?
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;W[pq]C[Shunyata [3k?\]: LOOL
maitrepo [2k\]: !!
fujiyama [7k\]: white D15 is interesting after q3
shapenaji [5d\]: well, there's no way to protect the 2 stones that ensures life, so just don't commit yourself and run into the center, that's how you find e14
Sampi [4d?\]: hey guys I just got here, who are the players?
shapenaji [5d\]: *and instead
goedeljp [1k\]: q3 risky
DarkPoet [4k\]: w: Kami sama (Noguchi Motoki), b: Kim Young-Sam
DarkPoet [4k\]: both 7-dan
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;B[qq]C[fujiyama [7k\]: q3-r3 or p3 
gogonuts [4d\]: if b takes the outside L3 can easily become misplaced, so i expect r3
MrZNF [6d\]: white is not showing god-like play imo
Shunyata [3k?\]: why is he called Kami Sama? Is it a title?
]
;W[oq]
;B[qr]
;W[no]C[Ukasuhs [5d?\]: probably ffscribe wants him to win
shapenaji [5d\]: unfortunately, I think w has to start playing shinogi at this point, destroy everything and hope something cracks
gogonuts [4d\]: its still a long game, bs advantage is only minor
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;B[mq]C[Shunyata [3k?\]: LoL. Real Kami sama is Fan Hui
Eyeandeye [7k\]: little early in the day for god-like. maybe journeyman like for a while until he gets warmed up
]
;W[po]C[Ukasuhs [5d?\]: b is gunna p4 O.o
FFGScribe [?\]: no
FFGScribe [?\]: Motoki 
MrZNF [6d\]: what does League of Legends got do with it
SIscurge [5d\]: is w gonna peep next?
]
;B[op]C[SIscurge [5d\]: wow what
fujiyama [7k\]: kami in japaneese is a God
shapenaji [5d\]: right there with you, this seems small for b,, just R5?
gogonuts [4d\]: it looks crude, but it makes use of L3 after w connects at o3
MrZNF [6d\]: i think w needs to r5
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: ya, w playing o4would seem realy bad for w
Xebo [4d\]: thats my first thought too
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: so, w has to p5 or r5
fujiyama [7k\]: O4 white wow
MrZNF [6d\]: p5 strange
SIscurge [5d\]: not p5 :D
MrZNF [6d\]: b will r4
shapenaji [5d\]: P5 doesn't seem so hot, then just R4
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: right
gogonuts [4d\]: ah, b thought w o4 was automatic
gogonuts [4d\]: but w is right to brood
gogonuts [4d\]: he might simply go for r5
shapenaji [5d\]: R5, s5?
SIscurge [5d\]: but even if w plays o4, is it really good for black?
djo666 [2k\]: le masacre
shapenaji [5d\]: r5 p5 doesn't work for b
]
;W[np]
;B[oo]C[Sampi [4d?\]:  surprising
fujiyama [7k\]: its the shape
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;W[on]C[gogonuts [4d\]: this is what i meant - L3 is working
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;B[qp]
;W[nq]C[MrZNF [6d\]: i wonder if o6 is good or not
fujiyama [7k\]: not surprising even a lower rank than me can see this move
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: i am also interested to see how b attacks
gogonuts [4d\]: looks like not :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: around L6?
MrZNF [6d\]: maybe just tenuki
Xebo [4d\]: this sequence more or less forces the cut doesnt it?
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: or maybe c7?
gogonuts [4d\]: but the cut makes q10 shine
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: but ya, not cutting does feel like b is giving w shape
HelloQtion [-\]: bonjour. désolé mais qui sont les joueurs ?
Xebo [4d\]: if he doesnt cut - then this sequence is strange
SAITEMR205 [3d?\]: o7 maybe?
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;B[cm]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b has to preempt the w invasion at the bottom somehow
FFGScribe [?\]: kami sama vs kim young-sam
gogonuts [4d\]: korean preemption :-)
goedeljp [1k\]: w regained 
fujiyama [7k\]: C7 is very severe
Xebo [4d\]: black wants to make tha game more complicated it seems
gogonuts [4d\]: c7 looks chaotic to me
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: probably b just didnt like any direct attack
OldGrumpy [2k\]: c3 ?
Shunyata [3k?\]: C7 is very KGS style
HelloQtion [-\]: Dieu a Blanc ?
sixty [1d\]: lol
FFGScribe [?\]: or korean
gogonuts [4d\]: its hard to play c7, because things could get bad quickly for b, if w manages to invade the bottom
FFGScribe [?\]: yes
HelloQtion [-\]: merci 
Xebo [4d\]: I feel that white is weaker on the left side
djo666 [2k\]: prion pour motoki
gogonuts [4d\]: c7 is certainly a soft spot - but i feel b jumped at it too early
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;W[cq]C[SIscurge [5d\]: I hope w doesn't crosscut
]
;B[cr]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w will make ko shape
gogonuts [4d\]: not continuing at d4 would be a surprise
Xebo [4d\]: agree
gogonuts [4d\]: w might even make a moyo at the bottom :-)
DesMites [4k\]: i cant help thinking that w is losing
fujiyama [7k\]: D4 white ?
]
;W[dp]C[fujiyama [7k\]: D4-W-B3-B-
Shunyata [3k?\]: d4 seems obvious
SAITEMR205 [3d?\]: If white D4 does black opt out of b3, and e3?
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont have the slightest idea who is better on the board right now
]
;B[bq]
;W[eq]
;B[cp]
;W[dr]
;B[cq]
;W[ep]C[SAITEMR205 [3d?\]: yikes.
]
;B[do]C[Shunyata [3k?\]: w is ruining the bottom
Griffondor [4d\]: sems good for w
Redjoker [4d\]: w will lose
OldGrumpy [2k\]: f5 ?
OldGrumpy [2k\]: no
]
;W[eo]
;B[dn]C[shapenaji [5d\]: well, w got the attack he needed
]
;W[iq]C[Pliniofilo [2d\]: b has some points
fujiyama [7k\]: white strong in the ladder now
shapenaji [5d\]: now O4 group looks perfect
Shunyata [3k?\]: this is why he is kalled Kami Sama
fujiyama [7k\]: wery difficult for kim to go away now :)
SAITEMR205 [3d?\]: Starting to really look like white's game now.
SAITEMR205 [3d?\]: I thought black had such a strong start.
henhen [4k\]: he did
shapenaji [5d\]: well, it's up to black to make sabaki now... maybe there's a good way to do it
fujiyama [7k\]: R10 the bigger move now
Shunyata [3k?\]: was c7 a bad move?
gogonuts [4d\]: i really dont think c7 was good
Shunyata [3k?\]: lol
gogonuts [4d\]: even if b elegantly reduces the bottom - we cant forget that b had ambitions at the bottom himself
Griffondor [4d\]: yeah, feels like w has a better positio now
shapenaji [5d\]: I don't think there's anything seriously wrong with c7, it's a hard stone for w to deal with, I think the problem was committing to it, C5 was not worth giving up the lower side
shapenaji [5d\]: b could play it and the sacrifice it for good value
shapenaji [5d\]: *then
OldGrumpy [2k\]: black have more points
gogonuts [4d\]: the alternative was pulling back at e3 against d4 - that was just too slack for this sharp player
OldGrumpy [2k\]: and l3 will survive sure
Xebo [4d\]: territorywise black is ok ... but he has got some weak groups and no more potential
OldGrumpy [2k\]: c 14is not that weak
fujiyama [7k\]: i think kim is looking for a global move as r10 NOW
Griffondor [4d\]: r10 ?
Muttley [2k\]: I had to leave, come back and found c9 ended up weak :0
fujiyama [7k\]: white in advance in points kim must add a strategic move now
shapenaji [5d\]: I dunno if I'd call it slack, It certainly wasn't sharp, but I feel like it was honte
Muttley [2k\]: which move, shape?
boku11d: finally  22""
OldGrumpy [2k\]: ffgscibe reviens !
gogonuts [4d\]: the b atari in the corner
fujiyama [7k\]: otherwise L5 is also a good move
FFGScribe [?\]: i am here
shapenaji [5d\]: what gogonuts said, pulling back at e3 in response to d4
FFGScribe [?\]: just the windows was frozen
boku11d: 碁の神様　？
fujiyama [7k\]: Paris is frozen now LOL
OldGrumpy [2k\]: ffgscribe you are always on your ridiculous smalll white computer ?
FFGScribe [?\]: muttley?
Muttley [2k\]: yes, FFG?
FFGScribe [?\]: some people need some kick
Pliniofilo [2d\]: lol
Muttley [2k\]: but I can't ban you
Muttley [2k\]: you're the scribe!
FFGScribe [?\]: viewers
Griffondor [4d\]: haha
gogonuts [4d\]: dont disparage his little white computer
Goreon [2d\]: lol
Pliniofilo [2d\]: who are you scribe ?
Muttley [2k\]: Do not disparage the computer.
FFGScribe [?\]: anyway i can block conversation here whatever
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;B[fr]C[Griffondor [4d\]: Tealc Plinio
Muttley [2k\]: let me know if pm rather than here if you do have problems, I was away for quite a while
Muttley [2k\]: in pm
Muttley [2k\]: I'll pick it up much more easily
FFGScribe [?\]: yeye
HelloQtion [-\]: f2 is saying white walls are weaks :D
Muttley [2k\]: thanks shapenaji, I replayed it, I agree with you
OldGrumpy [2k\]: a hard fight is going on
jwc [-\]: nice attacking emove
gogonuts [4d\]: motoki may be god, but kim is the devil
Muttley [2k\]: lol
gogonuts [4d\]: tactically, hes the sharpest player in the field
fujiyama [7k\]: If white connect black f3 and forced moves
Javaness [2d\]: motoki has a very beautiful style
Sampi [4d?\]: i agree java
Griffondor [4d\]: it's really hard to answer
Sampi [4d?\]: I love how motoki plays
fujiyama [7k\]: i think of that move but its a hard battle for black
Javaness [2d\]: can white leave this stones behind?
gogonuts [4d\]: against kim, you  have to be very careful with beautiful moves
anivally: looks like a huge sacrifice
Sampi [4d?\]: :)
SIscurge [5d\]: I would jump J5
Griffondor [4d\]: j5 seems nice indeed
anivally: b has 4 corners, doesnt w need some cash ?
gogonuts [4d\]: problem is, you cant really allow b e2
fujiyama [7k\]: kim G2 move probably
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: yes, young-sam is the devil. :)
gogonuts [4d\]: b e2 would turn ws "wall" into trash
Muttley [2k\]: "wall"?
Griffondor [4d\]: but w e2 doesn't seem very good either
Muttley [2k\]: don't build my house, gogonuts :)
fujiyama [7k\]: white G2
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
Muttley [2k\]: I just see a somewhat heavy group with black having unsettled/unstabled stones against j3
Muttley [2k\]: way complicated
]
;W[ko]C[Muttley [2k\]: "if you don't have a good move locally, tenuki"
insult [5d\]: e2 is huge
gogonuts [4d\]: nice, once you see it
jwc [-\]: this looks like a good move
gogonuts [4d\]: L5 is certainly a good move
FFGScribe [?\]: god*
anivally: god ?
FFGScribe [?\]: god move
Gouda [?\]: whites center looks good
gogonuts [4d\]: its clearly better than J5
]
;B[jp]C[OldGrumpy [2k\]: is white rtying to build a center moyo ?
fujiyama [7k\]: but elephant eye
]
;W[hp]C[Muttley [2k\]: well, after gogonuts comment about black's strength, I wondered whether this is a battle of trying to impose their will on each other, or make the other play a position not to their taste
troll [2d\]: k5 natural now
SIscurge [5d\]: :D what an unexpected move from Motoki
SIscurge [5d\]: this looks cool :) 
Muttley [2k\]: e2/L5 exchange seems to endorse that
FFGScribe [?\]: honnestly l5 k4 h4 is very god result for w
anivally: chasing b group seems the right choice
Muttley [2k\]: w is saying "f2/e2?  gote sir!" to me
gogonuts [4d\]: motoki found a very subtle counter
OldGrumpy [2k\]: i expected g3
troll [2d\]: more like w intends to say, w e2 settled white with points
Muttley [2k\]: Tealc, can you see the times used?
gogonuts [4d\]: but kim doesnt do subtle, so we will see :-)
Muttley [2k\]: pitbull go.  Only KGS.  And Tygem.  And Tom.  And ...
gogonuts [4d\]: w is working hard at finally beeing able to play e2
KoLife [1d\]: what is b kgs nickname
Muttley [2k\]: Korondo
Muttley [2k\]: apparently
anivally: if u dont do subtle, your opponent just see through your intentions right ?
FFGScribe [?\]: 45 minutes played by kami sama 25 by kim
Muttley [2k\]: thank you
troll [2d\]: anivally, doesnt matter most of the time
midorisuke [3d\]: you can see a train coming too, don't mean you can stop it
anivally: really ?
KoLife [1d\]: b kgs nickname ? 
Muttley [2k\]: I answered you, KoLife
troll [2d\]: atleast against weak players like me, you can just play honest move after another, no tricks, no fanciness, no hidden plans, and still win by good margin
Muttley [2k\]: scroll up
FFGScribe [?\]: korondo
gogonuts [4d\]: kim does do irony - ironically blasting throught the opponents plans
KoLife [1d\]: but korondo not have games or rank...
Muttley [2k\]: anivally, it is not whether the plans are obvious, it is whether they can be resisted
anivally: ok
]
;B[ho]C[troll [2d\]: kolife, korondo used to be active, and solid 9dan
HisokaH [-\]: oyo
midorisuke [3d\]: wow
anivally: doesnt motoki compete the pro selection btw ?
HisokaH [-\]: Go Motok Go !
FFGScribe [?\]: oyo
Muttley [2k\]: there is a difference between, say, a kyu's blunt moves and a really strong player's aggressive style
midorisuke [3d\]: i wouldn't think of this move in a long time
troll [2d\]: b saying e3 life is irrelevant, center is what matters..
troll [2d\]: and this is kinda like a shape point too, no? looking at j3 h4 stones
OldGrumpy [2k\]: that swhy i prefered g3 f3 h6
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: celui qui gagne cette partie gagne le tournoi ffg ?
FFGScribe [?\]: en gros
Pliniofilo [2d\]: euh... en tres gros
OldGrumpy [2k\]: kim a déjà gagné
FFGScribe [?\]: oui mais si kim perd il fuit
OldGrumpy [2k\]: le départage est au sos ?
troll [2d\]: b getting any thickness here is alos a very severe threat against c12?
]
;W[go]
;B[io]C[Krapsman [1d\]: seems b will win again
anivally: top 5 tourney doesnt look like a surprise
troll [2d\]: cant see a good move for w..
hortens [5k\]: FFG debarre et dai ne sont plu dans la course ?
FFGScribe [?\]: uep
Gouda [?\]: e2
Glorrandir [2d\]: avec deux rondes à jouer, il peut encore se passer beaucoup de choses en théorie
anivally: paris2014.jeudego.org/resultats
Glorrandir [2d\]: en pratique, même si Kim perd cette partie, je ne vois pas qui pourrait le battre dans la suivante
shapenaji [5d\]: yeah, I like e2 here
troll [2d\]: e2 h2 j2 g4?
OldGrumpy [2k\]: si le départage est au sos le tirage bizarre de la première ronde va nuire à kim
gogonuts [4d\]: there was no decent way to handle f2, so j3 is starting to look dubious
OldGrumpy [2k\]: son 1er adversaire a 1
shapenaji [5d\]: h2 doesn't require j2 troll, because k3 threatens a cut
midorisuke [3d\]: k3 pretty sad thing to play
OldGrumpy [2k\]: mais encore faudrait-il que motoki sensei gagne 
shapenaji [5d\]: h2 g4 I think
midorisuke [3d\]: guess w has the q10 stone, not afraid for o4 group
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: le coréen est impressionant
gogonuts [4d\]: still w is ok, even if b smashes the bottom so efficiently
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: personne n'aura vraiment rivalisé
anivally: les coreens sont tjs impressionant
anivally: s
Krapsman [1d\]: u find w ok gognuts?
gogonuts [4d\]: in the end, blost the bottom and gained the ll corner
gogonuts [4d\]: unless w actually ends up in trouble at the bottom
gogonuts [4d\]: but i dont expect that
Krapsman [1d\]: maybe g4 for w
troll [2d\]: if b l3 gains any thickness, o6 cut will hurt
anivally: f3 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: e2 g4 g3 f3 f5 g2 h2 - not a small ko
troll [2d\]: gogo, dont have to play h2
shapenaji [5d\]: h2 isn't required as troll said
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: in your sequence w doesnt need ko. just connect
gogonuts [4d\]: your both right
gogonuts [4d\]: so b cant g4
anivally: e2 f5 ?
shapenaji [5d\]: I think troll's h2 is the prettiest line, but I think w is okay with it
SIscurge [5d\]: H5 was a really nice move
gogonuts [4d\]: anyways - it does seem that w should connect at e2
Krapsman [1d\]: w kinda 3 weak groups
OldGrumpy [2k\]: g4 seems good to me
anivally: cant b ignore anything locally to run into the center ?
FFGScribe [?\]: 1h used by kami sama
SIscurge [5d\]: if w g4 then this whole sequence is a fail :(
troll [2d\]: old grumpy, how is g4 better than f3?
shapenaji [5d\]: e2 f5, f3 seems fine anivally
]
;W[er]C[Krapsman [1d\]: if w f3 b g6 is pain no?
shapenaji [5d\]: g4 here just gives up the entire battle
]
;B[gp]
;W[gq]
;B[fo]
;W[en]C[shapenaji [5d\]: ooh...
gogonuts [4d\]: wow
OldGrumpy [2k\]: comprends pas
troll [2d\]: I read this line, but I thought it was because because after w f3 b thickness has flaw, and w is alive locally
]
;B[fq]C[troll [2d\]: didnt even consider w would resist with e6
Krapsman [1d\]: e6 wrong?
Javaness [2d\]: le baguette
hortens [5k\]: what ???
SIscurge [5d\]: O.o b cant play here?
gogonuts [4d\]: not it is a humungous ko
Griffondor [4d\]: d7 ?
shapenaji [5d\]: w can't play g6 here... was e6 a mistake?
gogonuts [4d\]: now
gogonuts [4d\]: not not
anivally: d7 now ?
SIscurge [5d\]: why cant he G6?
hortens [5k\]: bon la partie est finie les gars
troll [2d\]: e6.. dont understand :(
]
;W[dm]C[Ukasuhs [5d?\]: g6 and w just dies?
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: he played e6 so fast, must have a plan
HisokaH [-\]: white d7 before
troll [2d\]: well, cant answer this
shapenaji [5d\]: hmm 
troll [2d\]: g6
OldGrumpy [2k\]: ah ah
SIscurge [5d\]: yup, but still loses the stones  so, b is satisfied
gogonuts [4d\]: hm
shapenaji [5d\]: I think b loves this trade
HelloQtion [-\]: w will g2 
]
;B[cn]C[troll [2d\]: whaaaat..
sixty [1d\]: o.o
gogonuts [4d\]: b has h2 after w g6 ...
]
;W[gn]C[shapenaji [5d\]: I'm very very confused...
anivally: g6 possible 
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: g2 works too
anivally: come on
sixty [1d\]: oh i see
maitrepo [2k\]: whouh
henhen [4k\]: nice nice..
shapenaji [5d\]: g6 works now, but why did b respond?
Javaness [2d\]: and now H2?
]
;B[gr]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: ko 
troll [2d\]: offering ko.. why?
sharma [6d\]: 5dan..really?
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: not ko
gogonuts [4d\]: no ko
shapenaji [5d\]: ah! yes, b doesn't push
SIscurge [5d\]: respond to D7? it was attari
troll [2d\]: oh, right, duh, j4..
troll [2d\]: right
gogonuts [4d\]: thats why its better than the playement
shapenaji [5d\]: sharma, 6d really? and all you can come up with is a rank comment?
SIscurge [5d\]: but black has a lot of cash and w kinda need to add a move at d8
]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]C[troll [2d\]: so.. why did w play e6? was worried about left side being left too weak otherwise?
]
;W[bo]
;B[bn]C[sharma [6d\]: yeah I do
]
;W[an]
;B[bm]
;W[bk]
;B[bp]C[sharma [6d\]: f6?
troll [2d\]: b shape doesnt look very efficient here tho
rija [1d\]: enfin un groupe faible en moins pr motoki =)
fujiyama [7k\]: Extra ball
gogonuts [4d\]: i wondered too, but e6 was more important than it seemed
codelyoko [4d\]: he will chase the top b group 
SIscurge [5d\]: H3 first for endgame?
codelyoko [4d\]: only way to win 
Griffondor [4d\]: now w lack points
troll [2d\]: w still has to fix it
anivally: w group might b less weak but doesnt look like that efficient either
codelyoko [4d\]: e12 ? 
Javaness [2d\]: B14 ?
troll [2d\]: e7
anivally: h2 ?
]
;W[fn]C[Krapsman [1d\]: e12 too easy for b?
]
;B[hq]C[codelyoko [4d\]: the thing is that he has to attack fiercly the group 
HelloQtion [-\]: so peaceful :)
Minjhou [11k\]: who said  f6?
codelyoko [4d\]: yes a bit too easy 
boku11d: 　　碁の　神様ですか　
troll [2d\]: b got nice points at the bottom
anivally: b13 ?
codelyoko [4d\]: it is all about how w will attack 
Javaness [2d\]: we will see what he has planned
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: if white doesnt play like... g14? is there really a way to attack
troll [2d\]: that e7 cut will be annoying
Eyeandeye [7k\]: not many targets
henhen [4k\]: attacking the upper left?
Krapsman [1d\]: f12?
anivally: top b group doesnt look ok
]
;W[ce]C[codelyoko [4d\]: :O 
henhen [4k\]: sdks rejoice!
troll [2d\]: e12
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: any attack to just make some points is totally dwarfed
codelyoko [4d\]: b15 d14 
codelyoko [4d\]: that is the plan 
HisokaH [-\]: La puissance du Motok !
gogonuts [4d\]: bs powerful tactics put b in the lead, but w is still in it
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: go motoki
Javaness [2d\]: H8 pour moi
codelyoko [4d\]: c13 b 
SIscurge [5d\]: can someone explain why didnt w H3? O,o
troll [2d\]: b could play greedy and do c13 but..
anivally: e12 ?
troll [2d\]: why not just do e12, its the move u want anyways?
codelyoko [4d\]: c15 is awesome 
meuns [1d\]: who is playing? 
OldGrumpy [2k\]: trying le gigantesque esxtra super center moyo
gogonuts [4d\]: b c13?
hortens [5k\]: il est fou..
gogonuts [4d\]: critical decision
codelyoko [4d\]: there is no way b will b15 
Backflash [4k?\]: noguchi and young-sam
anivally: b can just play lightly
meuns [1d\]: thx
Aixpert [1k\]: c13
anivally: what about j17 ?
troll [2d\]: c13 d12 is what happens for sure, dont like that exchange as b
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: ya, w has no chance to get points here that make up for thebottom side
OldGrumpy [2k\]: c la qu'il est fort motoki sensei
meuns [1d\]: sam is black? 
Backflash [4k?\]: yes
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: hes to be a strong attack
Minjhou [11k\]: andrid cgoban: pay for less
hortens [5k\]: si il place un G10 là d'accord
troll [2d\]: android only has some useless features removed, nothing important is missing.
]
;B[cg]C[troll [2d\]: :(
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: c'était trop facile pour sam jusque la
gogonuts [4d\]: think of it as a donation for years of free service
]
;W[dh]C[Minjhou [11k\]: it just have no option to see info and player's names
Eyeandeye [7k\]: that's what kgs+ is for
Backflash [4k?\]: troll ten dollars though
]
;B[be]C[troll [2d\]: backflash, I have paid it :)
anivally: f15 ?
Griffondor [4d\]: f13 ?
codelyoko [4d\]: b13 no choice 
anivally: isnt b13 gote ?
codelyoko [4d\]: if not b can live in 1 move 
gogonuts [4d\]: yes, must b13
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: w has to make points now
P4r4d0x [3d\]: but where ?
chid0ri [?\]: makes me miss having time for go
troll [2d\]: b13 looks right on principle, to keep it consistent.. but is there ANY meanintfull attack?
codelyoko [4d\]: he can't 
codelyoko [4d\]: the only choice is to attack
gogonuts [4d\]: take some profit, reduce the side to 0.5 eyes, and wait what b does
codelyoko [4d\]: an make points by attacking 
shapenaji [5d\]: I like E13 here
codelyoko [4d\]: i think motoki thinks about it 
codelyoko [4d\]: but not sure it works 
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont like e13 for d15
]
;W[bg]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: w needs tesuji
]
;B[bf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w needs patience
]
;W[bh]C[OldGrumpy [2k\]: il a les deux
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: i feel like attacking this way is gunna lose
troll [2d\]: would b f13 shape be too ugly here? or is g14 only choice?
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: its like white has to kill black
HisokaH [-\]: C'est le moment d'encaisser l'argent Motok !
gogonuts [4d\]: b f13?
anivally: b can just run but is gonna make points
troll [2d\]: gogo, yes, b f13
shapenaji [5d\]: I think if you want to play f13, e13 does the same thing but lets you get out further, d15 isn't sente, big endgame but not sente
]
;B[ge]C[gogonuts [4d\]: putting us to shame
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: i think if you wanted d15, you'd just play d17 directly
OldGrumpy [2k\]: le haut ou le centre ?
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: just to get w d18
gogonuts [4d\]: g15 is a very practical move
gogonuts [4d\]: f12 nexr
SIscurge [5d\]: c'est cool de voir comment Motoki est populaire en france
Aixpert [1k\]: g15 is nice, i wouldn't think about this move
troll [2d\]: g13
shapenaji [5d\]: Ukasuhs, nah, cuz the big endgame comes from b c18 first
HisokaH [-\]: e13
Javaness [2d\]: motoki is a nice guy, of course he is popular :)
shapenaji [5d\]: d15 allows you to play c18 and then play the throw-in
SIscurge [5d\]: I think I ve actually never seen him in person. He lives in Paris?
anivally: doesnt l17 might become lonely soon ?
]
;W[gg]C[Griffondor [4d\]: in Grenoble
SIscurge [5d\]: wow and still so popular? :D
OldGrumpy [2k\]: le centre
gogonuts [4d\]: w had to activate the full fighting spirit - could not allow b f12
anivally: moyo is getting big
Griffondor [4d\]: He moved to Grenoble not long ago, was in strasbourg before that
anivally: maybe i should move to grenoble too
SIscurge [5d\]: aaah :) Strasbourg go club is my favourite <3 
Griffondor [4d\]: Yeah come =)
gogonuts [4d\]: now we might get to see some genius from b
FFGScribe [?\]: was ?^^
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: w decent position here
gogonuts [4d\]: hes extremely dangerous, when you want to heard him like this
anivally: i dont think b is happy running his group like that
OldGrumpy [2k\]: si blanc peut jouer j7...
Aixpert [1k\]: He's running alone
Javaness [2d\]: nobody wants to live in paris :)
gogonuts [4d\]: my feeling is that b will solve it positively - but i cant tell you how :-)
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: maybe the first time of the tournament kim is running 
anivally: paris is too stressful
]
;B[eg]C[shapenaji [5d\]: I think d15 is still the move here, especially with g15 out, c18 starts to look very dangerous
troll [2d\]: e13 looks ugly, and them some
gogonuts [4d\]: it looked like he was running against dai too ..
SIscurge [5d\]: G15 may have been a mistake in shape
troll [2d\]: I guess this is needed, but uh..
anivally: better to run one group than 2
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: no contest against dai
henhen [4k\]: j15?
anivally: i dont get why w didnt exchange e13 before g13
troll [2d\]: because b d15 is painfull
anivally: ok
anivally: but i feel like e13 is to be responded now ?
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: cant tenuki here ?
OldGrumpy [2k\]: w r 7 est possible au yose ?
gogonuts [4d\]: w contemplating letting b run through his center rose garden
anivally: w plan is to build f11 area right ?
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troll [2d\]: pretty desperate board situation for w to consider that plan
WAWAN [5k\]:  
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]
;W[fi]C[Daimadoshi [-\]: :)
FFGScribe [?\]: speak is back
SIscurge [5d\]: I am happy Motoki didnt J15, like before with L5 :D
gogonuts [4d\]: wawan was silenced in a dark corner
Backflash [4k?\]: is f11 worth it? j5 still pretty huge hole
]
;B[hd]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: only 36 points for b with 3 corners.. maybe stille winable for motok
]
;W[hb]
;B[im]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: who plays black?
OldGrumpy [2k\]: motoki risque de manquer de temps nopn ?
anivally: b still running
Backflash [4k?\]: young-sam
AndEdhel [4k\]: oh...
fujiyama [7k\]: now looking points in the center
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: j7 husge
troll [2d\]: j7.. I would berate any kyu who game I was reviewing who would who played that.
gogonuts [4d\]: anyways, i think we have to score g13 against g15 as a success for w
Muttley [2k\]: so, now kill me
Backflash [4k?\]: toll so strickt
anivally: j14 now ?
Backflash [4k?\]: troll*
Muttley [2k\]: though I like w trying k8 eventually
FFGScribe [?\]: KAMI SAMA used 1hour 15 minutes  Kim 45
]
;W[hf]C[OldGrumpy [2k\]: ben oui, il est fort et il joue vite kim
gobenji [5k\]: c'est un coreen quoi ^^
SIscurge [5d\]: I wish J7 was white
OldGrumpy [2k\]: dai aussi mais il est chinois
noluck [2d\]: j7 est risqué non?
fujiyama [7k\]: kami sama h14 becaus black is not completely alive ^^
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: j7 risky
AndEdhel [4k\]: o4 will feel heat soon
troll [2d\]: o4 wont have time to feel any head if b dies at the top
troll [2d\]: heat*
AndEdhel [4k\]: big if
troll [2d\]: true :)
OldGrumpy [2k\]: ne jamais être obligé de tuer
troll [2d\]: in topleft, if I was playing as white, I would feel hopeless, not seeing anyt chance of killing, if I was black I would feel hopeless, not seeing any chance of living.
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: in motok we trust
]
;B[jd]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: troll, so do I ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: b found nothing other than the obvious move
troll [2d\]: my bet it on b living tho, too muich aji
]
;W[fd]C[Backflash [4k?\]: it is easier as black though
anivally: kyus would feel hopeless in a lot of situations
Javaness [2d\]: I don't think white can ramen enough points
]
;B[gf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: nice verb, java
]
;W[fe]
;B[ff]C[troll [2d\]: with j7 the game became 1 tsumego
troll [2d\]: nothing much left to play after this tsumego is played out
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: but b isnt gunna die
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: j7 maybe too soon
AndEdhel [4k\]: j14?
anivally: j14 h13 ?
gobenji [5k\]: j14 le mieux non ?
troll [2d\]: feelslike l16 is mandatory
troll [2d\]: ant let b have it
troll [2d\]: cant**
]
;W[jf]C[Backflash [4k?\]: w  still trying to salvage the center
anivally: with j7 in the middle of it ?
troll [2d\]: b needs to make some silly exchange to prevent the j16 wedge?
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: with j7,game looks over if b lives here
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: j16 wedge is not working
]
;B[kd]C[henhen [4k\]: is n16 too ambitious?
]
;W[ic]C[henhen [4k\]: j6 h6 k6 h7 no?
bigbubbles [9k\]: h13
fujiyama [7k\]: j16
]
;B[hg]C[OldGrumpy [2k\]: j'ai remarqué que noir n'aime pas répondre aux kikashis simplement
fujiyama [7k\]: oui
fujiyama [7k\]: h13 offre le choix à blanc
OldGrumpy [2k\]: j 13?
bigbubbles [9k\]: il protege h14 non?
gogonuts [4d\]: g12 j14 j13 j15 fixes the cut in sente ...
]
;W[ig]
;B[hh]C[Backflash [4k?\]: wait, isnt h13 helping w?
HisokaH [-\]: j16?
gogonuts [4d\]: nice - awful shape, but b cant protect in sente
]
;W[gh]
;B[he]C[troll [2d\]: introducted a cut for later more like
gogonuts [4d\]: and k15 helps b on the outside
troll [2d\]: introduced*
troll [2d\]: ya
OldGrumpy [2k\]: il pense ne pas connectter ?
Javaness [2d\]: il pense
troll [2d\]: funny, empty triangle = gain shape :)
hortens [5k\]: oui
HisokaH [-\]: il pense à la suite surtout
FFGScribe [?\]: ptetre h11
anivally: isnt w running out of time ?
gogonuts [4d\]: connect or resign
AndEdhel [4k\]: j16 possibke here... chasing in other direction?
hortens [5k\]: h11 
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: connect only choice
hortens [5k\]: h11 on a dit
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: still nice position
troll [2d\]: pure pointwise, b is only ahead by 5-10, but I Didnt account for the o6 problem
nouziller [?\]: Il pense à la société géniale et ça ça le rend heureux
OldGrumpy [2k\]: il va se retrouver en bio
]
;W[if]
;B[je]C[Javaness [2d\]: l'angle vide
Javaness [2d\]: partout
]
;W[lc]C[gobenji [5k\]: je trouve cette forme belle dans cette situation non ? ^^
FFGScribe [?\]: encore 10 minutes pour blanc
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: grace a p16
anivally: m15 ?
AndEdhel [4k\]: "But... it works, mate!" (john cleese as michelangelo)
gogonuts [4d\]: the tenuki-villain has escaped
]
;B[ld]C[OldGrumpy [2k\]: noir n'a pas tant de points que ça
anivally: w almost cannot run b anymore
DarkPoet [4k\]: so maybe w's gonna have to play p7 or something now?
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: w's patience is paying
OldGrumpy [2k\]: r7 ?
AndEdhel [4k\]: p8?
henhen [4k\]: does n16 hane not work?
jwc [-\]: n16 n15 o15?.
troll [2d\]: and now w owes moves around o6.. h12 stones annoying aji too, and ofcourse still e7
gogonuts [4d\]: still a lot of complicated decisions for 15/5 byoyomi
JakubP [5k\]: isnt w running out of time ?
]
;W[lf]C[anivally: once its alive, b can counter attack with o6 ?
Backflash [4k?\]: not enough stones to fix everything
AndEdhel [4k\]: e7 nothing?
troll [2d\]: e7 directly is nothing
troll [2d\]: doesnt mean there is no aji there
Backflash [4k?\]: e7 later is a problem
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: w must be so annoying by j7
AndEdhel [4k\]: m14 nice, threaten n16
Backflash [4k?\]: dependa on j7 development i think
Backflash [4k?\]: depends*
]
;B[me]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: j7 was nicely timed
JakubP [5k\]: isnt w running out of time ?
troll [2d\]: n15 = give me sente!
FFGScribe [?\]: encore 5 minutes
troll [2d\]: pause for 5min?
JakubP [5k\]: ty
Pliniofilo [2d\]: et noir ?
crocky [3d\]: l7
DarkPoet [4k\]: nah na6 wouldn't work because m15 cut is protected by k15 and if w extends black will either connect directly or threaten to capture two stones with n17
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: 5 min left
FFGScribe [?\]: 45 minutes pour blanc encore
DarkPoet [4k\]: n16 hane*
troll [2d\]: ah, ok
Backflash [4k?\]: translation for idiots please?
HisokaH [-\]: vive les formes de noir...
anivally: now what ?
AndEdhel [4k\]: w has 45mn left
troll [2d\]: w n14 sure feels good, but.. losing sente.. 
anivally: so its no good
gogonuts [4d\]: hail mary at h8
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: w is gote everywhere he has to play
Griffondor [4d\]: not w, b
Backflash [4k?\]: n14 and instant o6 after?
gogonuts [4d\]: if not h8, b gets it in sente
AndEdhel [4k\]: ah, sounded a lot ^^ w 5mn, b 45
anivally: what the point of n14 anyway ?
OldGrumpy [2k\]: ça me semble étrange que blanc ait encore 45 mn
FFGScribe [?\]: flemme de le dire en anglais
FFGScribe [?\]: cette fois
zudko [5k\]: tealc si c'est toi qui scribe
zudko [5k\]: va faire les parties de flo apres :(
Krapsman [1d\]: well if you cannot translate 45 minutes in english by yourself you do have a problem
FFGScribe [?\]: lis les infos
]
;W[nm]C[gogonuts [4d\]: wow
troll [2d\]: o6 was severe :P
]
;B[rf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: the composure :-)
AndEdhel [4k\]: ffg, des gens sont sur android...
OldGrumpy [2k\]: tu va voir ce que j'en fais de ton moyo
Krapsman [1d\]: k9 
Krapsman [1d\]: :0
FFGScribe [?\]: in 1 minute motoki go on byo yomi
]
;W[mf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: but it feels like the endgame will slip from ws hands
OldGrumpy [2k\]: un coup à drite, un coup à gauche
Muttley [2k\]: what are the byo yomi conditions?
Krapsman [1d\]: this one's gote
]
;B[qh]C[maitrepo [2k\]: N17 sente
iprobro [1d\]: h8
Gouda [?\]: w needa at east 25 points in the center
troll [2d\]: some silliness like 5min/15stones or something.
iprobro [1d\]: or j9 cap
FFGScribe [?\]: Byo yomi for w
OldGrumpy [2k\]: la je ne vois pas comment blanc peut encore gagner
Krapsman [1d\]: but w lost the right side
FFGScribe [?\]: 15 stones for 5 minutes
Muttley [2k\]: thx
gogonuts [4d\]: w trying hard, but b showing complete lack of humor
wotan123 [1k\]: ;-)
troll [2d\]: lol, so true
]
;W[ph]C[troll [2d\]: more like w trying to maintain composure, saying game is ok for him
troll [2d\]: and b saying, ok, lets play boring then
anivally: whose stronger in yose ?
wotan123 [1k\]: or simple, b has the better endgame
meuns [1d\]: b large lead
Krapsman [1d\]: I don't think motoki is thinking " game is ok for me" :)
OldGrumpy [2k\]: white is not so bad
]
;B[hl]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: motok very good
kjhkjh: qui est blanc ?
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: he wrote a book about it
Backflash [4k?\]: here we go
FFGScribe [?\]: kami sama
KoLife [1d\]: isn't black better than motoki ? why kim is b ? 
]
;W[fl]
;B[qi]C[Backflash [4k?\]: l10!
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: but im not sure it will help him here
]
;W[pi]C[elligain [4k\]: pourquoi le nom de motoki est entre parenthèse ?
FFGScribe [?\]: parce que
Kajiura [4k?\]: C'est le dieu ?
kjhkjh: kami sama ?
Pliniofilo [2d\]: parce qu'on a un scribe très drole
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: b is a insei teacher in korea
FFGScribe [?\]: je prefere mettre en évidence kami sama
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: very strong
Krapsman [1d\]: I see b 60 and w hardly 40
elligain [4k\]: ok
elligain [4k\]: merci
meuns [1d\]: you right kraps
P4r4d0x [3d\]: w o17 cut ? 
meuns [1d\]: w--
OldGrumpy [2k\]: je ne crois pas qu'il y ait 20 pts
Krapsman [1d\]: so rly need 20 pts center at least
meuns [1d\]: le grincheu !
Kajiura [4k?\]: Okay FFGscribe ^-^ !
troll [2d\]: o17 o18 
anivally: n6 ?
Uberdude [?\]: and what is scary is black was only 3rd class insei
P4r4d0x [3d\]: indeed
Uberdude [?\]: so there are quite a lot stronger amateurs in korea
meuns [1d\]: 1st class youngusengs are top pro
anivally: insei isnt pro
troll [2d\]: some, are future top pros..
meuns [1d\]: top pro levels
Uberdude [?\]: nah
meuns [1d\]: look at promotional games including fresh pro and to pones
HisokaH [-\]: while (white>black) white++; 
OldGrumpy [2k\]: et en plus ils ont 10 ans
]
;B[kl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: failing as a korean insei is a hard lot - playing world class go and still beeing a nobody
meuns [1d\]: b+r moins de 20 coups
HisokaH [-\]: <*
]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]C[Ukasuhs [5d?\]: if ur playing world class go, then just learn english and ull be somebody
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: there is an interview of b on the net, he says he was playing 10hours/day when was younger
meuns [1d\]: l8 so sexy
]
;W[pb]C[OldGrumpy [2k\]: ah
bolbi [-\]: personne pour expliquer pourquoi Motoki a changé de nom ?
Backflash [4k?\]: yea, around 1.5k people or so
HisokaH [-\]: yesssss my move
meuns [1d\]: b wants to cut
meuns [1d\]: sorry w
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: so b has to p18?
anivally: just n17 ?
troll [2d\]: looks that wya
maitrepo [2k\]: kami sama n est pas un nome mais un surnom
wotan123 [1k\]: 10h/day = not much time for other stuff
bolbi [-\]: et ?
shapenaji [5d\]: P18 I spose
elligain [4k\]: oui
gobenji [5k\]: joli coup :)
gobenji [5k\]: enfin bon sans danger pour noir
crocky [3d\]: blanc essaye just pieger noir ?
gogonuts [4d\]: if q16, w o17 looks lethal
meuns [1d\]: no way black fails here
meuns [1d\]: sneaky motoki
Pliniofilo [2d\]: just p18 ?
crocky [3d\]: c un bon coups mais est-ce que ct vraiment ce qu'i y avai de plus gros ?
shapenaji [5d\]: I think he's reading out N18 in response to q16 o17
dutch2dan [1d\]: n16 also some aji
trollgame [-\]: je trouve que c'est déjà très gros de tuer noir comme ça
shapenaji [5d\]: but I think p18 is best
bolbi [-\]: personne pour l'expliquer pourquoi Motoki s'est vu affubler d'un surnom que peu de gens comprennent ?
meuns [1d\]: private joke
hortens [5k\]: m10 aurait été plus gros, là noir peut couper
bolbi [-\]: sympa pour les spectateurs…
meuns [1d\]: m10 est mauvais
]
;B[pd]C[Pliniofilo [2d\]: n18 o16 ?
hortens [5k\]: voilà il coupe..
bolbi [-\]: t'as pas envie de m'expliquer la blague, s'il te plaît, meuns ?
]
;W[mb]C[OldGrumpy [2k\]: il n'aime pas se laisser faire noirr
meuns [1d\]: bah je suis pas du groupe
meuns [1d\]: comprends pas
Djuz [1k\]: o17? 
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: o17
kprist [3d\]: o17 ?
]
;B[nc]C[bolbi [-\]: ok, merci quand même
]
;W[qm]C[meuns [1d\]: black didn't fail ^^
]
;B[mn]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i dont see why o17 didnt work for w
maitrepo [2k\]: les jeux sont faits
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: poor motok
trollgame [-\]: kill it's bad 
gfdhff [2k\]: rip in peace
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: o17 n18
Kajiura [4k?\]: Pose pipi
tetsuo [1k\]: scribe escaper !
gogonuts [4d\]: how do you answer w o17?
trollgame [-\]: motoki raging against the scriber ? =) 
]
;W[nn]
;B[rm]
;W[pn]
;B[qo]C[Djuz [1k\]: o17 p18 look's work
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: no, if w o17, b could only n18
]
;W[kk]C[kprist [3d\]: o17 n18 ?
HelloQtion [-\]: I don't get why white didn't played o17 instead of n18
gogonuts [4d\]: n18 p18
shapenaji [5d\]: no, p18 doesn't work there, not enough libs
gogonuts [4d\]: answer?
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: almost blitz for w
jwc [-\]: o17 n18 o18?
HisokaH [-\]: n18 yose sente i guess
shapenaji [5d\]: q16, o17, n18, o16 is fascinating though
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: o17 n18 p18 o15 
Djuz [1k\]: o17 n18 is work too :)
]
;B[jk]C[gogonuts [4d\]: o15 o18
]
;W[ll]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i really think o17 was deep trouble for b
]
;B[kj]
;W[lk]C[Vortex [-\]: no
Kajiura [4k?\]: Le gagnant affrontera qui en final ?
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: i actually preferred to play k17 before q16, but i think b going out from o14 in that var i still just losing for w
]
;B[ji]
;W[nb]
;B[ob]
;W[km]C[crocky [3d\]: don't see how to counter o17 either
shapenaji [5d\]: actually, I'm starting to agree with gogonuts, I don't see how black deals with o16 after N17
shapenaji [5d\]: *N18
Kajiura [4k?\]: (okay) 
]
;B[hi]
;W[al]C[DarkPoet [4k\]: but if b had gone p18 instead of q16 i feel like there were zero worries right?
]
;B[ao]
;W[li]
;B[ql]C[shapenaji [5d\]: Dark, yeah, and it leaves great endgame on top, I don't think the 2 stones were worth giving up that endgame even IF q16 works
jwc [-\]: that would have been boring
]
;W[pm]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: b +20
sharma [6d\]: lol no
gobenji [5k\]: xD
Freund [2d?\]: close game 
zibouli [1d\]: c'est serré
zibouli [1d\]: ca dpend du yosé
]
;B[qj]
;W[pl]
;B[qk]
;W[mr]
;B[lr]
;W[mp]
;B[fj]C[troll [2d\]: and here comes resign?
]
;W[gj]
;B[gi]
;W[ej]
;B[fh]
;W[fk]
;B[lq]
;W[jl]
;B[ab]
;W[cb]
;B[kh]
;W[lh]
;B[nr]C[Djuz [1k\]: e11 is too small?
]
;W[or]
;B[ms]
;W[ee]
;B[kg]
;W[kf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b cant lose
]
;B[ei]
;W[di]
;B[fj]C[shapenaji [5d\]: here's a fun little endgame problem, what's the right order for K17 H17 and g17? can you get all 3 in sente?
]
;W[ik]
;B[jj]
;W[il]
;B[hj]C[Backflash [4k?\]: is there apoint? b got permanent 3-5 pts lead
]
;W[fi]
;B[jc]
;W[jb]
;B[fj]C[shapenaji [5d\]: sure, for the purposes of the thought experiment, you're playing bangneki
]
;W[ps]
;B[qs]
;W[fi]
;B[pk]
;W[ok]
;B[fj]C[HisokaH [-\]: b+10
]
;W[gk]
;B[jn]
;W[kn]C[OldGrumpy [2k\]: on a le résultat Dai Thomas ?
]
;B[ne]
;W[nf]
;B[mc]
;W[hk]
;B[hm]
;W[hn]C[circus [9k\]: c'est quoi le tournoi ?
]
;B[jo]C[shapenaji [5d\]: anyway, answer should be H17, G17, then K17 in sente
]
;W[hc]C[tetsuo [1k\]: who is black ? i guess he is not the former south korea president
]
;B[gm]
;W[fm]
;B[na]
;W[lb]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: his son
]
;B[am]
;W[ak]
;B[lj]
;W[mj]C[einstein [6d\]: He is probably someone's son.
tetsuo [1k\]: really ?
]
;B[lg]
;W[mg]
;B[lp]
;W[lo]
;B[ag]
;W[ah]
;B[af]
;W[fi]
;B[eh]
;W[ij]C[Backflash [4k?\]: yea, humans tend to have parents
]
;B[ii]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: he is korean insei teacher
]
;W[kp]
;B[jq]
;W[ma]
;B[oa]
;W[fs]
;B[gs]
;W[cs]
;B[bs]
;W[gd]C[einstein [6d\]: He is a korean ex-inseiwho teaches go.
]
;B[pe]
;W[pf]
;B[de]
;W[dd]
;B[df]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: he teaches go to inseis 
]
;W[ds]C[einstein [6d\]: I don't believe it.
Pliniofilo [2d\]: haha not really
]
;B[ba]
;W[ca]
;B[ac]
;W[fj]C[Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: i read it on an interview of him
]
;B[ns]C[einstein [6d\]: if w has a lotof ko threats: o1 
einstein [6d\]: aha
einstein [6d\]: hehehe
]
;W[es]
;B[aa]C[Pliniofilo [2d\]: ulquiorra, re-read the interview :)
einstein [6d\]: Maybe you remember it incorrectly.
]
;W[ki]
;B[jh]
;W[ih]
;B[fg]
;W[jg]
;B[dg]
;W[id]
;B[ie]
;W[ke]
;B[le]
;W[oe]
;B[pr]
;W[os]
;B[gl]
;W[jm]
;B[in]C[einstein [6d\]: If you start thinking about what you are saying, you also might reach the same conclusion as us.
henhen [4k\]: when did the kami sama title drop :(
OldGrumpy [2k\]: bravo au scribe qui ne s'est pas trompé
einstein [6d\]: B won...
einstein [6d\]: qui est lui?
Krapsman [1d\]: lui est insei
FFGScribe [?\]: Black+15,5
einstein [6d\]: right
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: http://gosensations.com/?id=2&server_id=1&new_id=1170
Krapsman [1d\]: tu voi grumpy pas si loin des 20 pts
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: his interview
Krapsman [1d\]: vois
Ulquiorra8 [3k\]: he talks about players on kgs
])
